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Thursday, June 25, 2009

Creationism ~Vs.~ Evolution

Student Wins Suit After Teacher Says Creationism 'Superstitious Nonsense'

Monday, May 04, 2009 
 

 

SANTA ANA, Calif. —  A federal judge ruled that a public high school history teacher violated the First Amendment when he called creationism "superstitious nonsense" during a classroom lecture.

U.S. District Judge James Selna issued the ruling Friday after a 16-month legal battle between student Chad Farnan and his former teacher, James Corbett.

Farnan sued in U.S. District Court in 2007, alleging that Corbett violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment by making repeated comments in class that were hostile to Christian beliefs.

The lawsuit cited more than 20 statements made by Corbett during one day of class, all of which were recorded by Farnan, to support allegations of a broader teaching method that "favors irreligion over religion" and made Christian students feel uncomfortable.

During the course of the litigation, the judge found that most of the statements cited in the court papers did not violate the First Amendment because they did not refer directly to religion or were appropriate in the context of the classroom lecture.

But Selna ruled Friday that one comment, where Corbett referred to creationism as "religious, superstitious nonsense," did violate Farnan's constitutional rights.

Farnan is not interested in monetary damages, said his attorney, Jennifer Monk of the Murrieta-based Christian legal group Advocates for Faith & Freedom.

Instead, he plans to ask the court to prohibit Corbett from making similar comments in the future. Farnan's family would also like to see the school district offer teacher training and monitor Corbett's classroom for future violations, Monk said.

There are no plans to appeal the judge's rulings on the other statements listed in the litigation, she said.

"They lost, he violated the establishment clause," she told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "From our perspective, whether he violated it with one statement or with 19 statements is irrelevant."

In making his decision, Selna wrote that he tried to balance Farnan's and Corbett's rights.

"The court's ruling today reflects the constitutionally permissible need for expansive discussion even if a given topic may be offensive to a particular religion," the judge wrote.

"The decision also reflects that there are boundaries. ... The ruling today protects Farnan, but also protects teachers like Corbett in carrying out their teaching duties."

Corbett, a 20-year teaching veteran, remains at Capistrano Valley High School.

Farnan is now a junior at the school, but quit Corbett's Advanced Placement European history class after his teacher made the comments.

The establishment clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from making any law establishing religion. The clause has been interpreted by U.S. courts to also prohibit government employees from displaying religious hostility.

Selna said that although Corbett was only found to have violated the establishment clause in a single instance, he could not excuse or overlook the behavior.

In a ruling last month, the judge dismissed all but two of the statements Farnan complained about, including Corbett's comment that "when you put on your Jesus glasses, you can't see the truth."

Also dismissed in April were comments such as, "Conservatives don't want women to avoid pregnancies — that's interfering with God's work" and "When you pray for divine intervention, you're hoping that the spaghetti monster will help you get what you want."

On Friday, Selna also dismissed one of the two remaining statements, saying that Corbett may have been attempting to quote Mark Twain when he said religion was "invented when the first con man met the first fool."

Corbett has declined to comment throughout the litigation. His attorney, Dan Spradlin, did not immediately return a message left Monday by The Associated Press.

Spradlin has said, however, that Corbett made the remark about creationism during a classroom discussion about a 1993 case in which a former Capistrano Valley High science teacher sued the school district because it required instruction in evolution.

Spradlin has said Corbett was simply expressing his own opinion that the former teacher shouldn't have presented his religious views to students.

Farnan's family released a statement Friday calling the judge's ruling a vindication of the teen's constitutional rights.

The Capistrano Unified School District, which paid for Corbett's attorney, was found not liable for Corbett's classroom conduct.

 

I personally believe in Creationism ......

What do you guys think ?

9 comments:

  1. Hmmmm, this could cause a debate. I'll just say that Evolution has been proven and leave my comment to that.

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  2. I think that people in the world will always have differing opinions, and that if we can all just have the personal strength to say "you have your opinion and I have mine" and let it be, than things would be fine. I won't change someone's belief system by challenging it, just like someone won't change mine by challenging it. We wouldn't be at war today if we all just let people have their own opinions and stopped challenging them, both sides, not just one. Maybe the teacher should have just taught that there were 2 ways of thinking and let people believe what they wanted to. Don't know.

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  3. I completely agree with this. Everyone wants to push their views and beliefs on the next person and judge them if they don't believe like them. I personally can't stand when people knock on my door to hand out THEIR religious beliefs. In fact yesterday I slammed the door in their face. It just irritates me to know end. I mean, I know where all the churches are and If I WANT to go then I'll go. DON'T KNOCK ON MY DOOR AND INTERRUPT WHAT I'M DOING TO SPEW YOUR DAMN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THOUGH. That turns me AWAY from it all. Ugh!!!!

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  4. Cause I bet they wouldn't like it if I knocked on their door to gilve them my beliefs. lol Oh NO....they wouldn't like it one bit.

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  5. I think that is what the crux of the issue is.

    There's absolutely no reason that teacher had to be so hostile against creationism, especially against a child! He's got a right to his beliefs, but he does not have a right to be so negative against another person's belief.

    Teachers should be mature enough to refrain from that sort of idiotic behavior!

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  6. No, the teacher shouldn't have been hostile. He shouldn't have said anything at all about Creationism. Though I think it's just another indication of how low our society is sinking when litigation ends up favoring religion of Science.

    I liken this to when my brother was in school, and the orchestra teacher was being a real jerk to him. He finally said to the teacher "Here's a quarter, call someone who gives a sh*t." The prinicpal said had he left off that last word, the principal would have sided with my brother. But since he swore, he forced the principal's hand and my brother got a detention.

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  7. Knock, knock, Knock .......

    HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

    See.THAT is why I have ya'll as friends, acuz even if we don't agree with eachother, we can say it, be honest and still remain friends !!!

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  8. lol, your so funny. I'm glad we can voice our views and still be friends too. That's the way it should be. :)

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